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Featured upload! [UPDATE] 10 new CAS Sliders (Breast, Hip, Waist, Butt, Head and more)

by jonha Posted 24th Nov 2009 at 4:56 PM - Updated 5th Jan 2012 at 10:45 PM by jonha : Update
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This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.

It seems the Pets patch changed the way the sliders work in game somehow. While they still can be installed and used, there may be some unusual deformations on your sims. So please be aware of that. You may continue to use them if you can live with this, but otherwise please wait until I provide an update. Note that this will probably take some time as I need to reinstall and update the game, find out what things EA changed, maybe adjust the necessary modding tools and finally adjust the sliders to the new behavior (if possible). Seems to be a lot of work? It is. And I don't have much time currently, so please be patient.



As I posted here, I started working on Body Sliders for Sims 3. A beta-version was uploaded in this thread.

Included are:
  • Breast (female teen-elder)
  • Waist (all ages and genders)
  • Hip Size (all ages and genders)
  • Butt (both genders, teen-elder)
  • Head Size (all ages and genders)
  • Shoulder Width (all ages and genders, was experimental before)
  • Neck (all ages and genders)
  • Chest (all ages and genders)
  • Leg width (all ages and genders)
  • Calf (all ages and genders)
The head size slider and the neck slider will appear in the head region, the other sliders will appear in the mouth region until someone manages to create a new region in CAS.

These sliders are genetical and will be always visible. For example, if you use the breast slider on males, there will be no visible changes, but you can influence, what genes they may forward to their children.

These sliders use quite realistic ranges that work well on all fit/fatness states and all clothing. If you require more extreme sims, you can use a slider multiplier hack, as included with Awesomemod or NRaas Master Controller, but look at the issues below.

Known issues:
  • The basic female t-shirt (the first in the list) has some strange bone assignments. I tweaked the breast slider, so it should look okay in most cases, but it may look bad on very thin and very muscular sims with very large breasts. If you want to be sure, install GnatGoSplat's T-Shirt Replacement Meshes fix (highly recommended). This is not needed since LN as EA fixed their meshes.
  • When using a slider hack that increases the slider range, you will notice, that with the waist slider, the upper body and head will shrink on extreme settings, and with the hip and butt slider, legs and feet will shrink. Also, the hands may begin to shake. This is by design and can't be fixed unless you redo/create bone assignments for every mesh. This effect is unnoticeable in the default slider range.
  • The arm position is changed by the waist slider and the hands may intersect with the hip on extreme settings.
  • The sliders aren't affected (or are reset) by the randomize function. (this behavior changed with LN, now the sliders get random values as every other slider)
  • The adult breast slider is rather pointy and unrealistic, but probably still better than the LN slider. I'm working on it.

Slider limits:
The game has a hardcoded limit of 20 sliders per section. This unfornuately means, that you can't install unlimited sliders. As the game already has a lot of sliders, there are only very few free slots:
  • Head & Ears: 2
  • Eyes: 3
  • Nose: 3
  • Mouth: 7
As 2 of my sliders go into the head section and 8 of my sliders go into the mouth section, you can't install all my sliders at the same time without hacks. In this case I suggest installing everything but the calf slider. Also, you have to be careful if you have other sliders installed because they need slots, too.

You can install for example Twallans Master Controller and Master Controller Integration, this Slider Hack, Awesomemod, or any other mod that increases or removes the limit. But all these mods only work for specific game versions (this means if you update the game you will need to update them too, or you will get startup crashes or other issues) and they may conflict with other core mods (Twallans mods don't conflict, because they are no core mod).

If the game is crashing at startup after installing a core mod, or you are getting messages about incompatible mods, you probably
  • use mismatching game/mod versions
  • use multiple core mods at the same time
  • don't have the d3dx9_31.dll in game\bin (only necessary when your mod is not in your my documents directory)

Installation:
You have to install the package labeled BASE in any case, as it contains all the texts for the user interface. Apart from that you can choose freely, what sliders you wish to install, if you make sure, you don't exceed the slider limit.

Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Updating:
If you previously used my 5 (or 6) sliders, just download the new ones and overwrite the old files. Sims will retain their body shape (with the exception of very small tuning changes).



FAQ:
Problem: My game crashes after installing this mod!
Answer: Make sure your slider hack and and your game version are compatible and you don't have old hacks installed. The sliders themselves should not be able crash the game.

Problem: My lip/jaw (or whatever) slider stopped working!
Answer: You are exceeding the slider limit of 20 sliders per section. Please install some mod to remove/increase the slider limit. Or uninstall sliders to stay under the limit.

Problem: It doesn't work!
Answer: Please follow the default package installation instructions.

Problem: It still doesn't work!
Answer: They work. Either you put the packages to the wrong location, or your framework is not properly installed. Maybe try Delphy's Framework tool. Maybe try installing another mod so you can be sure if it's my sliders or a general framework problem.

Problem: I can't find them! / Where do they appear ingame?
Answer: Don't look where the fatness slider is. They are actually facial sliders so they are in Head->General and Mouth->General. See the rightmost screenshot. Try to scroll down.

Problem: I'm too stupid/young/foreign/lazy to understand the install instructions! I still have issues!
Answer: I'm sorry, but I won't explain everything again and I can't tell you more as I already wrote here. If you have a specific question or problem you can ask me, but I won't reply to posts like "I can't get it to work!" or "I don't understand the instructions!". I got several messages from people who had problems, and I just told them to read and follow the descriptions again and then it worked for most of them. So just read and try it again (and then maybe again) and if it still doesn't work and you have some usable problem description, you can pm me or leave a comment. Please note that this download has a lot of comments and I can't reply to all. If you think you have an important topic (and not some random "I can't get it to work"-post where you tried it only one time) and I forgot you, please write a pm which I tend to check more often. But trying to add a comment first is probably a good idea, because other people might be able to help you, too.

Question: Can you make a arm/bodybuilder/eye/height/belly/whatever slider?
Answer: Sorry, I don't have plans to create additional sliders at the moment. There are already a lot of sliders from different people.

Question: Does it work together with Awesomemod or another core mod?
Answer: Yes. If the core mod itself removes the slider limit (as Awesomemod does), everything is fine, else you have to make sure you don't install too many sliders.

Question: Where can I find other sliders?
Answer:(List is incomplete, just google)

Question: Can I use them together?
Answer: Of course. Just make sure, to either stay under the 20 slider limit or otherwise install a core mod that removes the limit (recommended).

Compatibility:
The sliders work with all currently known game versions (tested up to version 1.29) and should work with all future versions, unless EA does big changes to the slider system. In game versions after 1.24 there may be minor deformation issues as explained at the top of the page. They work on PC and Mac. Some people have reported that they work even with The Sims Medieval, but I don't have this game so I can not give you install instructions or support for this.

The possibility of a conflict with other mods is nearly nonexistent as a conflicting mod would need to use the same instance IDs. Therefore a conflict can only happen, if someone wants to produce a conflict, or if someone does a really bad job at cloning my sliders and publishes his/her sliders with the same IDs.

Additional Credits:
I want to thank Delphy for his Small Editors and everyone else, wo did research and wrote tools, that helped me creating this (s3pi, s3pe, MilkShape exporters/importers, Blender, Wolfram Alpha, Gimp, and many more).

Thanks to everyone, who tested this and sent me feedback or translations.

Tags: #breast, #size, #waist, #hip, #butt, #buttock, #slider, #head, #cas, #body

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Test Subject
#351 Old 12th Jan 2010 at 3:12 PM
i have a mac i don't know how to install it on it :S pleasee help !
Scholar
Original Poster
#352 Old 12th Jan 2010 at 4:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cokester
I downloaded some Delphy sliders and it added more sliders and I was able to change to body proportions even more, is that what you meant?

Oh and I do I make my sim's body more detalied like "aqqu" posted in page 1 : http://thumbs2.modthesims.info/img/...reenshot-13.jpg

I did download better textures but I didnt see any changes.


Sorry, I don't understand. Do you want to install more sliders or do want to increase the effect/range of the sliders? The first is possible (you can install Delphys sliders, too, if you remove the slider limit with a mod), the second is possible, too, with awesomemod.

I don't see what downloading texture replacements has to do with this mod. Make sure, you delete the cache files, after installing them, but otherwise they should work in any case.

If you talk about the nipple detail, there is a mod at SXS2.

Quote:
Originally Posted by maria.princessx
i have a mac i don't know how to install it on it :S pleasee help !


The instructions are for MAC and for PC: http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php...3_Package_Files
Test Subject
#353 Old 12th Jan 2010 at 4:27 PM
I cant find the mod for the nipple detail at sxs2.
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Original Poster
#354 Old 12th Jan 2010 at 6:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cokester
I cant find the mod for the nipple detail at sxs2.


You have a pm.
Top Secret Researcher
#355 Old 12th Jan 2010 at 7:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
the second is possible, too, with awesomemod.


Phase Four of SuperComputer includes a facial slider multiplier as well, for those users who would prefer a non-core solution.

Cheers.

NRaas Industries: Sims 3 Mods for the Discerning Player, hosted by The Wikispaces.
Lab Assistant
#356 Old 13th Jan 2010 at 11:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cokester
Originally Posted by cokester

Oh and I do I make my sim's body more detalied like "aqqu" posted in page 1 : http://thumbs2.modthesims.info/img/...reenshot-13.jpg

I did download better textures but I didnt see any changes.

If you have meant the skintone, the one is my own, it can be found on B.A.S.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cokester
I cant find the mod for the nipple detail at sxs2.

It is easy to find those nipples on SXS2, in my opinion, they are really improving boobs sliders.
Test Subject
#357 Old 13th Jan 2010 at 5:37 PM
These sliders are great, and I've found no problems with them at all. Thanks! One thing I wonder though, is there any possibility of adding a slider for waist depth (as opposed to width, which we already have)?
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#358 Old 13th Jan 2010 at 8:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobsmith
These sliders are great, and I've found no problems with them at all. Thanks! One thing I wonder though, is there any possibility of adding a slider for waist depth (as opposed to width, which we already have)?


Of course. But you can easily make your sim fatter or thinner so I didn't saw a reason to include this.
Test Subject
#359 Old 13th Jan 2010 at 8:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonha
Of course. But you can easily make your sim fatter or thinner so I didn't saw a reason to include this.


True, but I thought it would make for more flexibility. Some sims look kind of unnaturally wide when they get fat if their waist slider is set high. Just an idea though.
Test Subject
#360 Old 13th Jan 2010 at 10:20 PM
wow thats so cool
Test Subject
#361 Old 14th Jan 2010 at 7:49 AM
Russian translations for (all) sliders:
  • Butt: Размер ягодиц
  • Breast: Размер груди
  • Head Size: Величина головы
  • Hip Size: Ширина бёдер
  • Shoulder Width: Ширина плеч
  • Waist: Обхват талии
  • Calf: Обхват голени
  • Chest: Обхват груди
  • Neck: Длина шеи
  • Leg Width: Толщина ног

Zipped STBL file is attached.
Tested in CAS Editor (with Russian UI sure )
Download - please read all instructions before downloading any files!
File Type: zip S3_220557DA_00000000_1289866B9931E290_Russian (ru-ru).zip (460 Bytes, 8 downloads)
Test Subject
#362 Old 14th Jan 2010 at 12:37 PM
cant get them 2 work
hi can anybody help me with my problem...


firstly thanks jonha for creating them but im tryin 2 install these sliders but they dont appear in my game. i have installed them in the way stated but they still not appearing. i have also checked that i have the correct .cfg and .dll file but they still not working also when i ensure they are the only core mod in the game it gets stuck on the loading screen and dont go to the main menu. has anyone else had this problem and know how to fix it? any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Scholar
Original Poster
#363 Old 14th Jan 2010 at 1:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phyzikal
hi can anybody help me with my problem...


firstly thanks jonha for creating them but im tryin 2 install these sliders but they dont appear in my game. i have installed them in the way stated but they still not appearing. i have also checked that i have the correct .cfg and .dll file but they still not working also when i ensure they are the only core mod in the game it gets stuck on the loading screen and dont go to the main menu. has anyone else had this problem and know how to fix it? any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Please first test without the sliderhack. It should load fine and the sliders should appear. If it then works, you can try to install the core mod. But of yourse it wont work, if there are other core mods installed, too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by vladz
Zipped STBL file is attached.
Tested in CAS Editor (with Russian UI sure )


Nice, thank you. Finally someone who managed to attach a stbl file
Banned
#364 Old 14th Jan 2010 at 2:35 PM
I have collected it and now not act < gun > < happen > me play < game >. How delete?
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#365 Old 14th Jan 2010 at 2:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scforum
I have collected it and now not act < gun > < happen > me play < game >. How delete?


??? If your game crashes you can remove the sliderhack file. The other packages shouldn't cause crashing, but of course you can delete them, too.
Test Subject
#366 Old 14th Jan 2010 at 2:48 PM
ich bin erst 13 was soll ich denn machen ich bin nicht son computer freak wie du
Test Subject
#367 Old 14th Jan 2010 at 8:51 PM
i can't get awesomemod to work and therefore cannot get any of your sliders to work! my game crashes at startup after the intro movie and i've tried everything i can! any help?
Test Subject
#368 Old 14th Jan 2010 at 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by twallan
Phase Four of SuperComputer includes a facial slider multiplier as well, for those users who would prefer a non-core solution.

Cheers.


@Twallan You are a godsend! I LOVE Phase 4. I was getting so annoyed because I didn't want to have Awesomemod and I had no facial slider hacks, etc. This mod is fabulous. Really. I think I love you! It works GREAT when you can change the slider amount for Jonha's slides! :D
Scholar
Original Poster
#369 Old 14th Jan 2010 at 11:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thomaslai
i can't get awesomemod to work and therefore cannot get any of your sliders to work!


My sliders don't require awesomemod. You only need it (or the slider hack on the donloads page), if you want to use all at the same time.

First try for example only installing the breast, hip and waist slider. If they work, my sliders itself are correctly installed. Then please ask in game help or anywhere else how to install the core mod if the instructions are unclear.
Test Subject
#370 Old 15th Jan 2010 at 5:32 AM
I can't find the Awesome Mod. Where can I get it?

Thanks,
E
Lab Assistant
#371 Old 15th Jan 2010 at 5:42 AM
Hey um great download but I found a problem with the breast sliders.
Im not sure if Im the only one, but if I enlarge my sims breasts, they overlap a small piece of chest above them in-game.
Test Subject
#372 Old 15th Jan 2010 at 8:56 AM
Exactly what I want! Thankyou! (:
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#373 Old 15th Jan 2010 at 2:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by em_fp
I can't find the Awesome Mod. Where can I get it?


http://en.lmgtfy.com/?q=Awesomemod

First entry.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pink_Pwincess
Hey um great download but I found a problem with the breast sliders.
Im not sure if Im the only one, but if I enlarge my sims breasts, they overlap a small piece of chest above them in-game.


Screenshot please. Did you installed the mesh fix mentioned on the overview page?
Lab Assistant
#374 Old 15th Jan 2010 at 10:47 PM
Thank you for these sliders btw. I have both files installed and the second one made it work fine.
Test Subject
#375 Old 15th Jan 2010 at 11:33 PM
i would really like to install your sliders but when i try to use shuffit on them this is the error message i get

The file "/Users/shea/Downloads/MTS_jonha_1027178_Jonha_Sliders/Jonha_Sliders_WaistSize.package" does not appear to be compressed or encoded. It is advised that you obtain further information about the contents of this file from the sender or provider of the file.

please help me i dont know what to do.

you can reach me at

sheahaviland@yahoo.com

thanks
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