Hello !

This thread is about making the "apple bobbing contest" object from TS3 for TS2.

I open this thread because :
- I saw on the forum thread "Hacks & CC that you'd like to see!" that a lot of people wanted that object and was willing to discuss it
- I want it too and I'm ok to try to do it
- I hope people will keep on helping by providing advices on this thread (not the other one that is not made for this purpose) or by joining the team (there's only me in the team for now )

I gathered there all the discussions about this object.

Did you see my link to Sun&Moon Apple tress with apples your sim can hold and eat? I'm not sure if it would help you with this or not.

Edit: Yes you did, your post simply wasn't showing up before. I'm interested in any type of fair ground game. I just installed a PCsims ones where sims knock over cans. I think it's using the dart board animation. I'm afraid I know zero about modding otherwise I would help out. I can play test things though.

Yes, I've seen your post. I don't know if it will help however, I'm going to download the whole thing and see.

I just remembered. When I wanted the cat shelves from TS3 someone directed me here. http://crispsandkerosene.tumblr.com/ She does TS3 to TS2 conversions and she did the shelves for me. You could always ask her to convert the TS3 mesh for the apple bobbing.

Thanks for the link because all the other propositions won't be as good and practical as the TS3 thing itself. She did it for you even though she didn't know you ?

Yup. Made it functional too.

Hey, CrispsandKerosene here (this is an old account predating the creation of my tumblr).

I could always convert the TS3 apple tub as a decorative object, but I don't know about animating it. It doesn't have either the water or the apples in when you look at it in TSRWorkshop.

Wa ! Thanks for your answer and for willing to do it ! I wasn't sure you would. It's unfortunate that you can't animate it but it's better than nothing. I'll see what I can do about this (perhaps it's an effect ?). Or perhaps when it will be done without the animated apples, someone will see it and animate it for us ? I'm so excited !!!
Thanks again ! :lovestruc

I decided to clone a bathtub to see if I could use the water effect from there. I might also try to add the floating apples, but I can't guarantee anything.

Thanks !!! I'm eager to see it !
Now it's mandatory for me to begin the modding part ! (I will feel culpability otherwise ...)

Good news, the bath water effect works! I'm now trying to get the apples to move.

Here is what it looks like for now (which a sim in :P) :

Great !!! It already looks very gound !

For me, it's not to good : the animation I had in mind (a2o-flowers-smell-bloomingFlowers) is not compatible because the sim end it by sitting up (so it can't be looped !).

For the apples, I was fummbling in TS2 datas and i found those animations from Bon Voyage :
o2a-logRolling-fall1
o2a-logRolling-fall1-alt
o2a-logRolling-fall2
o2a-logRolling-fall2-alt
o2a-logRolling-fall3
o2a-logRolling-fall3-alt
o2a-logRolling-fall4
o2a-logRolling-fall4-alt
o2a-logRolling-roll1
o2a-logRolling-roll1-alt
o2a-logRolling-roll2
o2a-logRolling-roll2-alt
o2a-logRolling-roll3
o2a-logRolling-roll3-alt
o2a-logRolling-roll4
o2a-logRolling-roll4-alt


Perhaps it will help you ?

Sadly, I'm not having much success in animating the apples I tried making a custom animation following this tutorial, but it will not play. It's not the first time I have trouble with that though, and I wonder if there might not be something weird with my milkshape. Perhaps I can upload the files and someone else can try to do it?

You have already done a lot, thanks.
If you post your work, we (me of course, and perhaps some anonymous samaritans) will try to get throught it.
In the modding part, I'm so far to succeed ... you've done a better job than me.

Here you go, then

Could the animations from bathing a toddler or dog somehow be used?

It's so simple that it might work : I hadn't thought about those !


And @Azelanne, thanks for the download.
I've looked a little into it : is it normal that the apples don't appear IN the bath and don't have texture in SimPE ?
However, once in game, the apples appear in the right place !

Perhaps, if we switch between the 2 subsets of apples (foodqualityapple), it could seem to float in water ?

The problem is that the hands would go into the water when hands are meant to be behind the sims back, but perhaps the first part where the sim knells down in front of the tub could be used and then another animation after that. I am no modder so i have no idea if animations can be stopped or combined like that. Another squat animation happens at the bookcase.

C&K I love the look of your tub with the apples.

I'm a not a master in modding (at all) but I know it's possible to use overlay animations for a part of the body. It's what I will try to do (I said "try" : I'm quite aventurous but I'm not used to deal with animations).

@Azelanne, I know much things about slots but I have a question about your converted object : are the apples on the same slot of the other parts of the object ? If yes, which slot ?

The apples' texture is slaved to the Maxis apple, that's why they have no textures in SimPE. They appear at a weird location there as well because I've moved the bones they are attached to (half of them to the right knob, and the others to the left). I haven't done anything with slots.

For the "hands tied behind back" animation, I think there's one used when a teen sim gets brought back from sneaking out by the police.

Ok. I don't really understand a thing (apart for the repository thing), so I'll let the apple be for now and concentrate on the sim interaction.

I thought about that animation but I couldn't find it in base game. But I was seaching in adult anims ...
Otherwise I've found a CC animation with hand on the back of the head. I'll compare them.
Now I'm testing the different testing animation box that I've made : with some overlays, it could change a lot.

Edit : Finally, I couldn't find the maxis arms overlay animation.
But I've made it somehow with custom animations from Tsukiko (hands on head) and schizophreniastudios (inclination of the spine). Here is the result : it's just a try but I would like to share. And perhaps you'll say it's totally weird...
See on youtube : https://youtu.be/yvCthJgpLj8

I won't be able to do much for a month, because my holidays are almost finished. I wanted to put the download but when I added the animation in, it just broke. For now, the animations are still in my testing box and I need a sleep but I'll see what I can do before the end of holidays.


Sources :
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=422439
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=418917

I double post because it is a question for in case some skilled people reads this :
1 - Is it possible to animate only a subset of a mesh ? And make it in SimPE only ? (making the apples go up and down)
2 - How do you modify a little an already made animation in SimPE ? (like inclinate a little the head of the sim but keep all the rest of the animation)

It will help keeping the project going ... and perhaps finishing it.