Whatever they call it, I don't expect it to be as profitable as TS4. That's why TS4 will continue. Don't forget who left TS4 to begin this project. That was Grant beloved for his work on Open for Business in TS2. Despised for his comments about dog houses are bad in TS4 and snarky comments on Twitter.

I believe TS4 will continue for those who don't want to play moving furniture around on their phones (TS5). But there will be new players who are seeking gaming fame who will be enticed by EA's offer to make them rich if they will create something and get paid for that creation as it gets sold in the game to the little people. There will be the usual takers of this type of popularity of Youtubers who will be the first to get their stuff up and running, and then those who also want fame among the community population to get in on the act, too.

Making money will be the draw for the new generation. Instead of a life simulation game it's going to be all about the money one can make if they play for free create stuff with a new DLC and make some money. It's purely a money-grubbing project. Where completion and cliques will weld the power over the game and all others will be looking for a new game to actually play instead of tooting horns and or just stick with the stale TS4.

Bingo! And EA. That is the goal. 4 will continue as long as makes money, for the players who like it and will continue to buy content, and the new will be to get especially the 12s and so on on their phones. Phone games/apps generate big $$$ and EA wants a part of that huge pie. It is all about the money.

PR might be played by those who travel a lot I would assume (where normally, you would sit down at home for a game like the Sims unless you have the time and patienxe in the world to set it on steam deck). On positive note, Project Renee may be the closest to the thing you’ll ever if you asked for nintendk switch port, lol.

And the way too many people especially the young nowadays who are Siamses twins with their phones. I have watched teens out to dinner together, and every one is on the phone. They do not say a word to each other unless to show someone else something on their phones. EA knows the stats about how many hours people are on their phones. It is a heck of a lot. People cannot even get off them when driving. It is an actual addiction for many and EA knows that.

I'm in my mid-30s and I do that.

Before mobile phones, it was handheld video game systems or books. I've been this way for as long as I remember. No shame in that.

I would argue it was TVs back in old days. Old farts were glued to their screen 3 hours and you couldn’t talk, say or ask something without being hushed. All the difference today is that teens are carryable cellphones and that’s that of a difference.

Even when I don't have a phone somewhere, I'm not a talkative person so I'd either be counting floor tiles, ceiling tiles, or something else to distract me from the silence. Can't say I've ever played a game at a table though. Used to play "lines and boxes" or whatever it's called which only required something to write with and some paper.

Wrong. Get the facts.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how...chrome&ie=UTF-8

Yeah, on accident I miswrote carryable telephones instead of carryable TVs. I’m sure adults would have watch mini TV outside of their home if they had a portable device like teens have. There’s a difference where you have to retirn home to use electronic va where you take and use it anywhere. I’m sure statistic would be way different had Adults had portable, easy to use screen that broadcast all channels you gotten to see at home.

No, it was a totally different mindset before this. People could have all gone everywhere with a book, or whatever. People were out doing things more and communicating face to face with people. They were not addicted to devices/something else. Now many of the teens and some others will not even make a phone call and all they will do is text. There is a whole generation now with too many that are glued to screens and not living in the real world outside of it much. It has been heavily noted and studied. I saw one show about a teen who has chosen to be on the street in a filthy dump homeless rather that get off her phone. There are apps for virtual friends now. People choose that over making real ones. It is all quite sad actually. They are going to have a very hard time as adults in too many cases.

EA is well aware of how much people, especally pre and teens are on their phones. And they want in on the big $$$$$$ from it. They know exactly what is going on. And they want a piece of that pie.

That's how I met my bestie, Sim Sample.

Not all if them carried books or socialized (my parents, grandparents and other adults I looked up to didn’t) and not all adults were extroverts (then again, it’s maybe US thing to be load and talk ul anyone). Also, it’s hypothetical situation what would have had happened IF handheld TV tv came in before smartphones. I’m not denying that there is no problem with how newer generation isn’t suffering emotional and sociological problem regarding antisocialism or device addiction. I’m just saying it may have been the same (well, maybe to extent) if people whk were glued to tv had easy way to consume dopamine outside of their home. I do agree with you regardless.

Maybe in America it is like that, but I still do see Teens talking to one another oher than text (like on a bus to goes outskirts of town teens talk with another vocally than texting across). And some do talk over phone, when they have reason to talk longer than exchange information than a short minute. Personally, as adult I much prefer leaving the house and hang out with someone I wanna talk over phoning because i hardly can hear a word when theres noise around. I text if theres no way around it.

However, I personally think that schools or very least parents need to teach them in modern world not be depended on just their smart phones.

I think many parents want to do as best as can but social media companies have algorithyms, however spelled, to keep them on. Parents try and fail. The media companies and social pressures are too strong and the teens and others cannot see it and resist. Some parents and organizations are trying to fight it, but so far it is not working.

Sims is pretty harmless other than time and amounts they may spend at least. It is not like other things leading to anxiety, depression, and even suicides. It is generally silly fluff.

I think the time is ripe to start talking about Project Rene.

For starters, an exclusive shot of the base game. Not "from" - "of".

It's my understanding that window style, the shirt, shorts, socks, shoes the sim is wearing, are only available through microtransactions. So not exactly the stuff of "free to enter" base game. Oh, the toilet may be base game, but the function to flush is also microtransaction only. Sims 5, the best version ever! Bring it on!

Or, more realistically, the toilet the best example of it, as it's all going down the crapper. The despair the sim seems to be displaying, also very apt. Probably another microtransaction animation.

"Want to buy unbreakable toilet? That'll be dollarsign6and99cents.!

I wish they revealed more about Rene really, at this point it just sounds like "multiplayer Sims you can play together with friends" okay, but how do the characters actually look like aside of being more expressive apparently? Is everything going to be stuff I have to buy separately or will there be free content too? What about other age groups, can you play as baby/infant/toddler/child/teen/elder or is it strictly young adults? Can you chat in the game? Will the said chat option be moderated and how? (I suppose with AI since no way they'd pay for all the people it would take to actually moderate anything). What about custom content? Is there going to be an in-game store that'll be the only way to share your creations so they can moderate what's been uploaded and keep the game "clean" like that while still allowing creativity? That feels like it would be the only way they could go about it honestly, it's either that or no-EA created content at all I assume.

Overall, nothing we've seen about Rene so far has convinced me that I want it, BUT it sure has convinced that me that their vision is nothing like how I envisioned Sims series turning out after Sims 2 and I feel that there's not much hope that they'd ever turn back to that "right" track again so it's very likely that there'll never again be a good Sims game by EA. Hopefully one of the competitors turns out better eventually.

Maxis dropping the ball again. They knew last year that they needed a new game announcement and didn’t have a new game to announce. So they hedged their bets against a couple indies and announced the potential for a new game. Now a year later we have working footage of another big budget life sim being made on the same engine for the same platforms. Unless they have some explosive reveal lined up for the beginning of the year including a release window we may be entering another SimCity 5 era for Maxis.

I think EA made the original mistake with TS4: regardless of the SimCity disaster they should have kept it as a multiplayer game - but they panicked. A good move would be to make multiplayer free; a lot of people would play it and then EA could milk them dry. Which they did anyway, but I guess players would not mind it as much as they do with the actual TS4.

Now EA is going more or less exactly the same way with TS5. It remains to be seen whether it will be multiplayer or not; one possibility is that Project Rene will be and TS5 won't. Imagine that: two games that are basically the same but with completely different sets of microtransactions (you can't use in the second one what you bought in the first) and, of course, with payable multiplayer. EA's wet dream.

But the situation is rather different this time. TS4 had no real competition except for TS2 and TS3, and a lot of people want to have the latest model, no matter what. Now there are some real competitors (as well as some fake ones) around and TS5 won't be the newest and the shiniest one any more.

I don't know what the final result will be but I do know that the show will be great.

I think EA did the right thing in ditching the multiplayer as it was a different market then, even though it caused many problems for the game. As for 5, there are Simmers who will get pretty much anything Sims and so 5 no matter what will be the newest and shiniest for them.

I have never been a completist. Odds are I will check it out if a free install, look a bit out of curiosity, then dump it. From what I am seeing so far it is not something that is being designed for an old school Simmer like me.

It will have multiplayer functions they have reiterated this every time they’ve talked about it. I know there is skepticism on this board about it, but Rene is Sims 5. According to them there will be Rene (Sims 5) and Sims 4, although I am skeptical that Sims 4 will actually run alongside the new game if it’s as early in development as they claim it is. Bottom line is there is only one new Sims game in the pipeline and it’s going to have single player and multiplayer game modes.

I think they are just refusing to call it Sims 5 as yet; maybe they are thinking of just reverting to 'The Sims' as they did with 'SimCity' (previous iterations were caled Sim City, Sim City 2000, Sim City 4 etc).

You are right, of course, all of you - no two games, though you must admit it would be a great way to bleed the players. Maybe someone from EA will read this thread and they will adopt it and then I can sue them and finally become rich. Sweet dreams.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ExUHBNJTjjU

Too lazy a screencap, but watch the video around from 5:50-6:00 mark and stop at 6:10 (you gonna love this one from sims team). Thank me later…




*flees like skeletor out of thread*


P.S: If one the Sim Yibs/fluencers try to do this shit to defend EAs crap, we can easily fire back and mass spam the screenshot and tell them to shut up voice puppets

I don't believe for a second gurus don't spend time in the DM boxes of Yibs telling them to attempt to control the narrative / mood of the community. Pack reviews are always based on CAS and build / buy. It isn't until a week or two later post a pack being put up for sale that suddenly all the bugs that Yibs 'didn't see' or ' didn't know about' suddenly are talked about. The For Rent pack shined a light on that whole issue. Part of this could be avoided if Yibs actually played with a pack for a solid 15-20 hours before giving a review, but that's not how the Yib program works.

It is so bad at this point that EA wants to give kickbacks to Yibs if people use the codes posted on their YT channels, but EA won't give the person buying a discount. I think it is Satch that is always zooming in on this little 'oversight' but it is a oversight that needs more sunshine put on it. When does the sims franchise become a MLM because it starting to feel like it is going in that direction.

Attempts at damage control are now a full time job for Yibs as Maxis can't seem to take the heat any more even though they're the ones peddling the bugs and problems to the masses. For the purists, I know EA is the publisher, but EA will publish anything so let's not use them as some kind of standard. They can't even be bothered to update the banners in FIFA to the correct year and yet, people continue to gobble that crap up. Gotta get them loot box fixes, I guess.

As a side note, I fell down a rabbithole a few days ago about internet influencers in general. Most of it was about the shit on Tik-Tok, but what happens there is not much different from all the shizz that goes on, on Instagram, Facebook, ect... It is insane what people will do if somebody on the internet simply tells them how wonderful they are.

They will spend hundreds of dollars on bags of dirt full of lead,then eat it because somebody smiled at a camera and told them that the eating said dirt would fix all of their problems. People will spend over $100.00 on a bottle of essential oils because they "trust" the person telling them that this snake oil will fix all vision problems even though the bottle of snake oil states do not use said oil around the eye area.

I won't get started about the whole thing surrounding stanley cups. People camping out in front of Target for a fucking pink cup that Target charges $45.00 for.

I need to stop before the tut-tutting starts, but the days of taking internet things with a truck load of salt no longer applies. It is more like take things with a convoy of dump trucks full of salt.